Dīgha Nikāya 11 Kevaṭṭasutta Evaṁ me sutaṁ— ekaṁ samayaṁ bhagavā nāḷandāyaṁ viharati pāvārikambavane.

Kevaddha Sutta

Thus have I heard. At one time, the Blessed One was dwelling at Nāḷandā in Pāvārika's mango grove.

Atha kho kevaṭṭo gahapatiputto yena bhagavā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā bhagavantaṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi.

Then, Kevaṭṭa, the householder's son, approached the Blessed One. Having approached, he paid homage to the Blessed One and sat down to one side.

Ekamantaṁ nisinno kho kevaṭṭo gahapatiputto bhagavantaṁ etadavoca: “ayaṁ, bhante, nāḷandā iddhā ceva phītā ca bahujanā ākiṇṇamanussā bhagavati abhippasannā.

While sitting there, Kevaṭṭa, the householder's son, said to the Blessed One: Venerable Sir, this Nāḷandā is prosperous, flourishing, crowded with people, and has faith in the Blessed One.

Sādhu, bhante, bhagavā ekaṁ bhikkhuṁ samādisatu, yo uttari manussadhammā iddhipāṭihāriyaṁ karissati; evāyaṁ nāḷandā bhiyyoso mattāya bhagavati abhippasīdissatī”ti.

It would be good, Venerable Sir, if the Blessed One were to appoint a disciple who could perform a superhuman miracle of psychic power. In this way, Nāḷandā would have even greater faith in the Blessed One.

Evaṁ vutte, bhagavā kevaṭṭaṁ gahapatiputtaṁ etadavoca: “na kho ahaṁ, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhūnaṁ evaṁ dhammaṁ desemi: ‘etha tumhe, bhikkhave, gihīnaṁ odātavasanānaṁ uttari manussadhammā iddhipāṭihāriyaṁ karothā’”ti.

Having been spoken thus, the Blessed One said to Kevaṭṭa, the householder's son: Kevaṭṭa, I do not teach the disciples in this way, saying, Come perform a superhuman miracle of psychic power for the white-clothed laypeople.

Dutiyampi kho kevaṭṭo gahapatiputto bhagavantaṁ etadavoca: “nāhaṁ, bhante, bhagavantaṁ dhaṁsemi; api ca evaṁ vadāmi: ‘ayaṁ, bhante, nāḷandā iddhā ceva phītā ca bahujanā ākiṇṇamanussā bhagavati abhippasannā.

For the second time, Kevaṭṭa, the householder's son, said to the Blessed One: I do not doubt the Blessed One, Venerable Sir, but I say this: This Nāḷandā is prosperous, flourishing, crowded with people, and has faith in the Blessed One.

Sādhu, bhante, bhagavā ekaṁ bhikkhuṁ samādisatu, yo uttari manussadhammā iddhipāṭihāriyaṁ karissati; evāyaṁ nāḷandā bhiyyoso mattāya bhagavati abhippasīdissatī’”ti.

It would be good, Venerable Sir, if the Blessed One were to appoint a disciple who could perform a superhuman miracle of psychic power. In this way, Nāḷandā would have even greater faith in the Blessed One.

Dutiyampi kho bhagavā kevaṭṭaṁ gahapatiputtaṁ etadavoca: “na kho ahaṁ, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhūnaṁ evaṁ dhammaṁ desemi: ‘etha tumhe, bhikkhave, gihīnaṁ odātavasanānaṁ uttari manussadhammā iddhipāṭihāriyaṁ karothā’”ti.

For the third time, Kevaṭṭa, the householder's son, said to the Blessed One: I do not doubt the Blessed One, Venerable Sir, but I say this: This Nāḷandā is prosperous, flourishing, crowded with people, and has faith in the Blessed One.

Tatiyampi kho kevaṭṭo gahapatiputto bhagavantaṁ etadavoca: “nāhaṁ, bhante, bhagavantaṁ dhaṁsemi; api ca evaṁ vadāmi: ‘ayaṁ, bhante, nāḷandā iddhā ceva phītā ca bahujanā ākiṇṇamanussā bhagavati abhippasannā. Sādhu, bhante, bhagavā ekaṁ bhikkhuṁ samādisatu, yo uttari manussadhammā iddhipāṭihāriyaṁ karissati.

It would be good, Venerable Sir, if the Blessed One were to appoint a disciple who could perform a superhuman miracle of psychic power.

Evāyaṁ nāḷandā bhiyyoso mattāya bhagavati abhippasīdissatī’”ti.

In this way, Nāḷandā would have even greater faith in the Blessed One.

1. Iddhipāṭihāriya “Tīṇi kho imāni, kevaṭṭa, pāṭihāriyāni mayā sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā paveditāni.

The Blessed One then explained: There are, Kevaṭṭa, these three kinds of miracles that I have personally realized and declared.

Katamāni tīṇi?

What are the three?

Iddhipāṭihāriyaṁ, ādesanāpāṭihāriyaṁ, anusāsanīpāṭihāriyaṁ.

The miracle of psychic power, the miracle of telepathy, and the miracle of instruction.

Katamañca, kevaṭṭa, iddhipāṭihāriyaṁ?

And what, Kevaṭṭa, is the miracle of psychic power?

Idha, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu anekavihitaṁ iddhividhaṁ paccanubhoti—ekopi hutvā bahudhā hoti, bahudhāpi hutvā eko hoti; āvibhāvaṁ tirobhāvaṁ tirokuṭṭaṁ tiropākāraṁ tiropabbataṁ asajjamāno gacchati seyyathāpi ākāse; pathaviyāpi ummujjanimujjaṁ karoti seyyathāpi udake; udakepi abhijjamāne gacchati seyyathāpi pathaviyaṁ; ākāsepi pallaṅkena kamati seyyathāpi pakkhī sakuṇo; imepi candimasūriye evaṁ mahiddhike evaṁ mahānubhāve pāṇinā parāmasati parimajjati; yāva brahmalokāpi kāyena vasaṁ vatteti.

he continued. Here, Kevaṭṭa, a disciple enjoys various kinds of psychic power: being one, he becomes many; being many, he becomes one; he appears and vanishes; he goes unimpeded through walls, through enclosures, through mountains as if through space; he dives in and out of the earth as if it were water; he walks on water without sinking as if it were earth; sitting cross-legged, he flies through the air like a bird with wings; he touches and strokes with his hand the sun and moon, so powerful and mighty; and he travels in the body as far as the Brahma world.

Tamenaṁ aññataro saddho pasanno passati taṁ bhikkhuṁ anekavihitaṁ iddhividhaṁ paccanubhontaṁ—ekopi hutvā bahudhā hontaṁ, bahudhāpi hutvā eko hontaṁ; āvibhāvaṁ tirobhāvaṁ; tirokuṭṭaṁ tiropākāraṁ tiropabbataṁ asajjamānaṁ gacchantaṁ seyyathāpi ākāse; pathaviyāpi ummujjanimujjaṁ karontaṁ seyyathāpi udake; udakepi abhijjamāne gacchantaṁ seyyathāpi pathaviyaṁ; ākāsepi pallaṅkena kamantaṁ seyyathāpi pakkhī sakuṇo; imepi candimasūriye evaṁ mahiddhike evaṁ mahānubhāve pāṇinā parāmasantaṁ parimajjantaṁ yāva brahmalokāpi kāyena vasaṁ vattentaṁ.

One day, a certain faithful and devoted person sees a disciple experiencing various kinds of supernormal powers: becoming one, he becomes many; becoming many, he becomes one; he appears and vanishes; he goes unhindered through walls, enclosures, and mountains as if through space; he dives in and out of the earth as if it were water; he walks on water without sinking as if it were earth; he flies cross-legged through the sky like a bird; he touches and strokes the sun and moon, so powerful and mighty; he even ascends with his body as far as the Brahma world.

Tamenaṁ so saddho pasanno aññatarassa assaddhassa appasannassa āroceti: ‘acchariyaṁ vata bho, abbhutaṁ vata bho, samaṇassa mahiddhikatā mahānubhāvatā.

This faithful and devoted person reports to another who is faithless and not devoted, saying, It is wonderful, sir, it is marvelous, sir, the great power and might of the recluse.

Amāhaṁ bhikkhuṁ addasaṁ anekavihitaṁ iddhividhaṁ paccanubhontaṁ—ekopi hutvā bahudhā hontaṁ, bahudhāpi hutvā eko hontaṁ …pe…

I saw a disciple experiencing various kinds of supernormal powers: becoming one, he becomes many; becoming many, he becomes one...

yāva brahmalokāpi kāyena vasaṁ vattentan’ti.

even as far as the Brahma world, he exercises control with his body.

Tamenaṁ so assaddho appasanno taṁ saddhaṁ pasannaṁ evaṁ vadeyya: ‘atthi kho, bho, gandhārī nāma vijjā.

The faithless and not devoted person might say to the faithful and devoted one, There is, sir, a science called Gandhārī.

Tāya so bhikkhu anekavihitaṁ iddhividhaṁ paccanubhoti—ekopi hutvā bahudhā hoti, bahudhāpi hutvā eko hoti …pe…

By means of it, that disciple experiences various kinds of supernormal powers: becoming one, he becomes many; becoming many, he becomes one...

yāva brahmalokāpi kāyena vasaṁ vattetī’ti.

even as far as the Brahma world, he exercises control with his body.

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, kevaṭṭa, api nu so assaddho appasanno taṁ saddhaṁ pasannaṁ evaṁ vadeyyā”ti?

What do you think, Kevatta, would that faithless and not devoted person say this to the faithful and devoted one?

“Vadeyya, bhante”ti.

He would, venerable sir.

“Imaṁ kho ahaṁ, kevaṭṭa, iddhipāṭihāriye ādīnavaṁ sampassamāno iddhipāṭihāriyena aṭṭīyāmi harāyāmi jigucchāmi. 2.

Seeing the danger in the miracle of supernormal power, I am disgusted, ashamed, and repelled by it.

Ādesanāpāṭihāriya Katamañca, kevaṭṭa, ādesanāpāṭihāriyaṁ?

And what, Kevatta, is the miracle of telepathy?

Idha, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu parasattānaṁ parapuggalānaṁ cittampi ādisati, cetasikampi ādisati, vitakkitampi ādisati, vicāritampi ādisati: ‘evampi te mano, itthampi te mano, itipi te cittan’ti.

Here, Kevatta, a disciple reveals the minds of other beings, other persons, saying, This is how your mind is, this is how your mind inclines, this is in your mind.

Tamenaṁ aññataro saddho pasanno passati taṁ bhikkhuṁ parasattānaṁ parapuggalānaṁ cittampi ādisantaṁ, cetasikampi ādisantaṁ, vitakkitampi ādisantaṁ, vicāritampi ādisantaṁ: ‘evampi te mano, itthampi te mano, itipi te cittan’ti.

A certain faithful and devoted person sees that disciple revealing the minds of other beings, other persons, saying, This is how your mind is, this is how your mind inclines, this is in your mind.

Tamenaṁ so saddho pasanno aññatarassa assaddhassa appasannassa āroceti: ‘acchariyaṁ vata bho, abbhutaṁ vata bho, samaṇassa mahiddhikatā mahānubhāvatā.

This faithful and devoted person reports to another who is faithless and not devoted, saying, It is wonderful, sir, it is marvelous, sir, the great power and might of the recluse.

Amāhaṁ bhikkhuṁ addasaṁ parasattānaṁ parapuggalānaṁ cittampi ādisantaṁ, cetasikampi ādisantaṁ, vitakkitampi ādisantaṁ, vicāritampi ādisantaṁ: “evampi te mano, itthampi te mano, itipi te cittan”’ti.

I saw a disciple revealing the minds of other beings, other persons, saying, This is how your mind is, this is how your mind inclines, this is in your mind. Even so is your mind, in this way is your mind, thus is your consciousness.

Tamenaṁ so assaddho appasanno taṁ saddhaṁ pasannaṁ evaṁ vadeyya: ‘atthi kho, bho, maṇikā nāma vijjā; tāya so bhikkhu parasattānaṁ parapuggalānaṁ cittampi ādisati, cetasikampi ādisati, vitakkitampi ādisati, vicāritampi ādisati: “evampi te mano, itthampi te mano, itipi te cittan”’ti.

Then, an unbelieving, untrusting person might say to a faithful, trusting one, There is indeed, friend, a science called the Jewel; by it, a disciple reveals the mind of others, reveals the mental states, reveals the thoughts, reveals the considerations, saying, Even so is your mind, in this way is your mind, thus is your consciousness.

Taṁ kiṁ maññasi, kevaṭṭa, api nu so assaddho appasanno taṁ saddhaṁ pasannaṁ evaṁ vadeyyā”ti?

What do you think, Kevatta, would an unbelieving, untrusting person say thus to a faithful, trusting one?

“Vadeyya, bhante”ti.

He would, venerable sir.

“Imaṁ kho ahaṁ, kevaṭṭa, ādesanāpāṭihāriye ādīnavaṁ sampassamāno ādesanāpāṭihāriyena aṭṭīyāmi harāyāmi jigucchāmi. 3.

Seeing the danger in the miracle of mind-reading, Kevatta, I am disgusted, ashamed, and repelled by it.

Anusāsanīpāṭihāriya Katamañca, kevaṭṭa, anusāsanīpāṭihāriyaṁ?

And what, Kevatta, is the miracle of instruction?

Idha, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu evamanusāsati: ‘evaṁ vitakketha, mā evaṁ vitakkayittha, evaṁ manasikarotha, mā evaṁ manasākattha, idaṁ pajahatha, idaṁ upasampajja viharathā’ti.

Here, Kevatta, a disciple instructs thus: Think in this way, do not think in that way, attend in this way, do not attend in that way, abandon this, attain and dwell in that.

Idaṁ vuccati, kevaṭṭa, anusāsanīpāṭihāriyaṁ.

This is called, Kevatta, the miracle of instruction.

Furthermore, Kevatta, here a Tathagata arises in the world, an Arahant, a Fully Enlightened One...

Puna caparaṁ, kevaṭṭa, idha tathāgato loke uppajjati arahaṁ sammāsambuddho …pe…

Thus, Kevatta, a disciple is accomplished in virtue... enters and dwells in the first jhana.

Evaṁ kho, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu sīlasampanno hoti …pe…

This too is called, Kevatta, the miracle of instruction.

paṭhamaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.

This too is called, Kevatta, the miracle of instruction...

Idampi vuccati, kevaṭṭa, anusāsanīpāṭihāriyaṁ …pe…

enters and dwells in the second jhana...

dutiyaṁ jhānaṁ …pe…

enters and dwells in the third jhana...

tatiyaṁ jhānaṁ …pe…

enters and dwells in the fourth jhana.

catutthaṁ jhānaṁ upasampajja viharati.

This too is called, Kevatta, the miracle of instruction...

Idampi vuccati, kevaṭṭa, anusāsanīpāṭihāriyaṁ …pe…

This too is called, Kevatta, the miracle of instruction...

ñāṇadassanāya cittaṁ abhinīharati abhininnāmeti …pe…

directs and inclines the mind towards knowing and vision...

idampi vuccati, kevaṭṭa, anusāsanīpāṭihāriyaṁ …pe…

this too is called, Kevatta, the miracle of instruction...

nāparaṁ itthattāyāti pajānāti …pe…

knows there is no further becoming...

idampi vuccati, kevaṭṭa, anusāsanīpāṭihāriyaṁ.

this too is called, Kevatta, the miracle of instruction.

Imāni kho, kevaṭṭa, tīṇi pāṭihāriyāni mayā sayaṁ abhiññā sacchikatvā paveditāni.

These, Kevatta, are the three miracles that I have personally realized and declared.

4. Bhūtanirodhesakabhikkhuvatthu Bhūtapubbaṁ, kevaṭṭa, imasmiññeva bhikkhusaṅghe aññatarassa bhikkhuno evaṁ cetaso parivitakko udapādi: ‘kattha nu kho ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū’ti?

Once upon a time, Kevatta, in this very community of disciples, a certain disciple had this thought arise in his mind: Where do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element?

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu tathārūpaṁ samādhiṁ samāpajji, yathāsamāhite citte devayāniyo maggo pāturahosi.

Then, Kevatta, that disciple entered into such a concentration that, with his mind thus concentrated, the path to the deva realms appeared.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu yena cātumahārājikā devā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā cātumahārājike deve etadavoca: ‘kattha nu kho, āvuso, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū’ti?

Then, Kevatta, that disciple approached the devas of the Four Great Kings; having approached, he asked them, Friends, where do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element?

Evaṁ vutte, kevaṭṭa, cātumahārājikā devā taṁ bhikkhuṁ etadavocuṁ: ‘mayampi kho, bhikkhu, na jānāma: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”ti.

When this was said, Kevatta, the gods of the Four Great Kings said to that disciple, We too do not know where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, water element, fire element, and air element.

Atthi kho, bhikkhu, cattāro mahārājāno amhehi abhikkantatarā ca paṇītatarā ca.

There are the Four Great Kings who are more excellent and superior to us.

Te kho etaṁ jāneyyuṁ: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”’ti.

They would know where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, water element, fire element, and air element.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu yena cattāro mahārājāno tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā cattāro mahārāje etadavoca: ‘kattha nu kho, āvuso, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū’ti?

Then, Kevatta, that disciple approached the Four Great Kings; having approached, he said to the Four Great Kings, Where, friends, do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, water element, fire element, and air element?

Evaṁ vutte, kevaṭṭa, cattāro mahārājāno taṁ bhikkhuṁ etadavocuṁ: ‘mayampi kho, bhikkhu, na jānāma: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu, āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”ti.

When this was said, Kevatta, the Four Great Kings said to that disciple, We too do not know where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, water element, fire element, and air element.

Atthi kho, bhikkhu, tāvatiṁsā nāma devā amhehi abhikkantatarā ca paṇītatarā ca.

There are the gods of the Thirty-Three who are more excellent and superior to us.

Te kho etaṁ jāneyyuṁ: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”’ti.

They would know where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, water element, fire element, and air element.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu yena tāvatiṁsā devā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā tāvatiṁse deve etadavoca: ‘kattha nu kho, āvuso, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū’ti?

Then, Kevatta, that disciple approached the gods of the Thirty-Three; having approached, he said to the gods of the Thirty-Three, Where, friends, do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, water element, fire element, and air element?

Evaṁ vutte, kevaṭṭa, tāvatiṁsā devā taṁ bhikkhuṁ etadavocuṁ: ‘mayampi kho, bhikkhu, na jānāma: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”ti.

When this was said, Kevatta, the gods of the Thirty-Three said to that disciple, We too do not know where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, water element, fire element, and air element.

Atthi kho, bhikkhu, sakko nāma devānamindo amhehi abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro ca.

There is Sakka, the lord of the gods, who is more excellent and superior to us.

So kho etaṁ jāneyya: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”’ti.

He would know where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, water element, fire element, and air element.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu yena sakko devānamindo tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā sakkaṁ devānamindaṁ etadavoca: ‘kattha nu kho, āvuso, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū’ti?

Then, Kevatta, that disciple approached Sakka, the lord of the gods; having approached, he said to Sakka, the lord of the gods, Where, friend, do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, water element, fire element, and air element?

Evaṁ vutte, kevaṭṭa, sakko devānamindo taṁ bhikkhuṁ etadavoca: ‘ahampi kho, bhikkhu, na jānāmi: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”ti.

When this was said, Kevatta, Sakka, the lord of the gods, said to that disciple, I too do not know. Where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element.

Atthi kho, bhikkhu, yāmā nāma devā …pe…

There are, indeed the Yāmā gods...

suyāmo nāma devaputto …

and Suyāmo, the god...

tusitā nāma devā …

the Tusitā gods...

santussito nāma devaputto …

and Santussito, the god...

nimmānaratī nāma devā …

the Nimmānaratī gods...

sunimmito nāma devaputto …

and Sunimmito, the god...

paranimmitavasavattī nāma devā …

the Paranimmitavasavattī gods...

vasavattī nāma devaputto amhehi abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro ca.

and Vasavattī, the god, who is more excellent and superior to us.

So kho etaṁ jāneyya: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”’ti.

He would know this: Where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu yena vasavattī devaputto tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā vasavattiṁ devaputtaṁ etadavoca: ‘kattha nu kho, āvuso, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū’ti?

Then, Kevatta, that disciple approached Vasavattī, the god; having approached, he asked Vasavattī, the god, Friend, where do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element?

Evaṁ vutte, kevaṭṭa, vasavattī devaputto taṁ bhikkhuṁ etadavoca: ‘ahampi kho, bhikkhu, na jānāmi: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”ti.

When this was said, Kevatta, Vasavattī, the god, replied to that disciple, I too do not know where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element.

Atthi kho, bhikkhu, brahmakāyikā nāma devā amhehi abhikkantatarā ca paṇītatarā ca.

There are, indeed the Brahmakāyikā gods who are more excellent and superior to us.

Te kho etaṁ jāneyyuṁ: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”’ti.

They would know this: Where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu tathārūpaṁ samādhiṁ samāpajji, yathāsamāhite citte brahmayāniyo maggo pāturahosi.

Then, Kevatta, that disciple entered into such a concentration that, with his mind thus concentrated, the path to the Brahma world appeared.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu yena brahmakāyikā devā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā brahmakāyike deve etadavoca: ‘kattha nu kho, āvuso, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū’ti?

Then, Kevatta, that disciple approached the Brahmakāyikā gods; having approached, he asked the Brahmakāyikā gods, Friend, where do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element?

Evaṁ vutte, kevaṭṭa, brahmakāyikā devā taṁ bhikkhuṁ etadavocuṁ: ‘mayampi kho, bhikkhu, na jānāma: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”ti.

When this was said, Kevaṭṭa, the Brahmakāyikā gods replied to that disciple, We too do not know where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element.

Atthi kho, bhikkhu, brahmā mahābrahmā abhibhū anabhibhūto aññadatthudaso vasavattī issaro kattā nimmātā seṭṭho sajitā vasī pitā bhūtabhabyānaṁ amhehi abhikkantataro ca paṇītataro ca.

There is, indeed Brahmā, the Great Brahmā, the Conqueror, the Unconquered, the All-seeing, the Sovereign, the Creator, the Maker, the Chief, the Controller, the Father of all that has been and will be, who is more excellent and superior to us.

So kho etaṁ jāneyya: “yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”’ti.

He would know this: Where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element.

‘Kahaṁ panāvuso, etarahi so mahābrahmā’ti?

But where, friend, is that Great Brahmā now?

‘Mayampi kho, bhikkhu, na jānāma, yattha vā brahmā yena vā brahmā yahiṁ vā brahmā; api ca, bhikkhu, yathā nimittā dissanti, āloko sañjāyati, obhāso pātubhavati, brahmā pātubhavissati, brahmuno hetaṁ pubbanimittaṁ pātubhāvāya, yadidaṁ āloko sañjāyati, obhāso pātubhavatī’ti.

We too do not know where Brahmā is, or by whom Brahmā is, or where Brahmā is; however as signs appear, light arises, radiance manifests, Brahmā will appear. This is the precursor to the manifestation of Brahmā, namely, the arising of light and the manifestation of radiance.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, mahābrahmā nacirasseva pāturahosi.

Then, Kevaṭṭa, the Great Brahmā appeared shortly thereafter.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu yena so mahābrahmā tenupasaṅkami; upasaṅkamitvā taṁ mahābrahmānaṁ etadavoca: ‘kattha nu kho, āvuso, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū’ti?

Then, Kevaṭṭa, the disciple approached the Great Brahmā and said to him, Friend, where do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element?

Evaṁ vutte, kevaṭṭa, so mahābrahmā taṁ bhikkhuṁ etadavoca: ‘ahamasmi, bhikkhu, brahmā mahābrahmā abhibhū anabhibhūto aññadatthudaso vasavattī issaro kattā nimmātā seṭṭho sajitā vasī pitā bhūtabhabyānan’ti.

Upon being asked this, Kevaṭṭa, the Great Brahmā said to the disciple, I am Brahmā, the Great Brahmā, the Conqueror, the Unconquered, the All-seeing, the Sovereign, the Creator, the Maker, the Chief, the Controller, the Father of all that has been and will be.

Dutiyampi kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu taṁ mahābrahmānaṁ etadavoca: ‘na khohaṁ taṁ, āvuso, evaṁ pucchāmi: “tvamasi brahmā mahābrahmā abhibhū anabhibhūto aññadatthudaso vasavattī issaro kattā nimmātā seṭṭho sajitā vasī pitā bhūtabhabyānan”ti.

For the second time, Kevaṭṭa, the disciple said to the Great Brahmā, Friend, I do not ask you thus, Are you Brahmā, the Great Brahmā, the Conqueror, the Unconquered, the All-seeing, the Sovereign, the Creator, the Maker, the Chief, the Controller, the Father of all that has been and will be.

Evañca kho ahaṁ taṁ, āvuso, pucchāmi: “kattha nu kho, āvuso, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”’ti?

But I ask you, Where do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element?

Dutiyampi kho so, kevaṭṭa, mahābrahmā taṁ bhikkhuṁ etadavoca: ‘ahamasmi, bhikkhu, brahmā mahābrahmā abhibhū anabhibhūto aññadatthudaso vasavattī issaro kattā nimmātā seṭṭho sajitā vasī pitā bhūtabhabyānan’ti.

For the second time, Kevaṭṭa, the Great Brahmā said to the disciple, I am Brahmā, the Great Brahmā, the Conqueror, the Unconquered, the All-seeing, the Sovereign, the Creator, the Maker, the Chief, the Controller, the Father of all that has been and will be.

Tatiyampi kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu taṁ mahābrahmānaṁ etadavoca: ‘na khohaṁ taṁ, āvuso, evaṁ pucchāmi: “tvamasi brahmā mahābrahmā abhibhū anabhibhūto aññadatthudaso vasavattī issaro kattā nimmātā seṭṭho sajitā vasī pitā bhūtabhabyānan”ti.

For the third time, Kevaṭṭa, the disciple said to the Great Brahmā, Friend, I do not ask you thus, Are you Brahmā, the Great Brahmā, the Conqueror, the Unconquered, the All-seeing, the Sovereign, the Creator, the Maker, the Chief, the Controller, the Father of all that has been and will be.

Evañca kho ahaṁ taṁ, āvuso, pucchāmi: “kattha nu kho, āvuso, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū”’ti?

But I ask you, Where do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element?

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, mahābrahmā taṁ bhikkhuṁ bāhāyaṁ gahetvā ekamantaṁ apanetvā taṁ bhikkhuṁ etadavoca: ‘ime kho maṁ, bhikkhu, brahmakāyikā devā evaṁ jānanti, “natthi kiñci brahmuno aññātaṁ, natthi kiñci brahmuno adiṭṭhaṁ, natthi kiñci brahmuno aviditaṁ, natthi kiñci brahmuno asacchikatan”ti.

Then, Kevaṭṭa, the Great Brahmā took the disciple by the arm, led him aside, and said to him these Brahmā's retinue of gods believe that there is nothing unknown to Brahmā, nothing unseen by Brahmā, nothing uncomprehended by Brahmā, nothing unrealized by Brahmā.

Tasmāhaṁ tesaṁ sammukhā na byākāsiṁ.

Therefore, I did not declare it in their presence.

Ahampi kho, bhikkhu, na jānāmi yatthime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātūti.

Indeed I do not know where these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element.

Tasmātiha, bhikkhu, tuyhevetaṁ dukkaṭaṁ, tuyhevetaṁ aparaddhaṁ, yaṁ tvaṁ taṁ bhagavantaṁ atidhāvitvā bahiddhā pariyeṭṭhiṁ āpajjasi imassa pañhassa veyyākaraṇāya.

Therefore it is your fault, it is your transgression, that you have gone beyond the Blessed One and sought outside for the explanation of this question.

Gaccha tvaṁ, bhikkhu, tameva bhagavantaṁ upasaṅkamitvā imaṁ pañhaṁ puccha, yathā ca te bhagavā byākaroti, tathā naṁ dhāreyyāsī’ti.

Go approach the Blessed One himself and ask this question, and as the Blessed One explains it to you, so you should remember it.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu—seyyathāpi nāma balavā puriso samiñjitaṁ vā bāhaṁ pasāreyya, pasāritaṁ vā bāhaṁ samiñjeyya; evameva brahmaloke antarahito mama purato pāturahosi.

Then, Kevaṭṭa, that disciple, just as a strong man might extend his drawn-in arm or draw in his extended arm, disappeared from the Brahma world and appeared before me.

Atha kho so, kevaṭṭa, bhikkhu maṁ abhivādetvā ekamantaṁ nisīdi, ekamantaṁ nisinno kho, kevaṭṭa, so bhikkhu maṁ etadavoca: ‘kattha nu kho, bhante, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū’ti? 4.1.

Then, Kevaṭṭa, that disciple, after paying homage to me, sat down to one side.

Sitting there, Kevaṭṭa, that disciple said to me, Where, venerable sir, do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element?

Tīradassisakuṇupamā Evaṁ vutte, ahaṁ, kevaṭṭa, taṁ bhikkhuṁ etadavocaṁ— bhūtapubbaṁ, bhikkhu, sāmuddikā vāṇijā tīradassiṁ sakuṇaṁ gahetvā nāvāya samuddaṁ ajjhogāhanti.

Having been spoken thus, I, Kevaṭṭa, said to that disciple: Once upon a time seafaring merchants took a bird that could see the shore and set sail on the ocean.

Te atīradakkhiniyā nāvāya tīradassiṁ sakuṇaṁ muñcanti.

When they could no longer see the shore, they released the bird.

So gacchateva puratthimaṁ disaṁ, gacchati dakkhiṇaṁ disaṁ, gacchati pacchimaṁ disaṁ, gacchati uttaraṁ disaṁ, gacchati uddhaṁ disaṁ, gacchati anudisaṁ.

It flew east, south, west, north, upwards, and in all directions.

Sace so samantā tīraṁ passati, tathāgatakova hoti.

If it saw the shore, it would fly there.

Sace pana so samantā tīraṁ na passati, tameva nāvaṁ paccāgacchati.

If it did not see the shore, it would return to the ship.

Evameva kho tvaṁ, bhikkhu, yato yāva brahmalokā pariyesamāno imassa pañhassa veyyākaraṇaṁ nājjhagā, atha mamaññeva santike paccāgato.

In the same way you, searching for the explanation of this question as far as the Brahma world, did not find it, and have returned to me.

Na kho eso, bhikkhu, pañho evaṁ pucchitabbo: ‘kattha nu kho, bhante, ime cattāro mahābhūtā aparisesā nirujjhanti, seyyathidaṁ—pathavīdhātu āpodhātu tejodhātu vāyodhātū’ti?

This question should not be asked in this way: Where, venerable sir, do these four great elements cease without remainder, namely, the earth element, the water element, the fire element, and the air element?

Evañca kho eso, bhikkhu, pañho pucchitabbo: ‘Kattha āpo ca pathavī, tejo vāyo na gādhati; Kattha dīghañca rassañca, aṇuṁ thūlaṁ subhāsubhaṁ; Kattha nāmañca rūpañca, asesaṁ uparujjhatī’ti.

This is how the question should be asked: Where do water and earth, fire and air find no footing? Where are long and short, fine and coarse, pure and impure, where do name and form completely cease without remainder?

Tatra veyyākaraṇaṁ bhavati: ‘Viññāṇaṁ anidassanaṁ, anantaṁ sabbatopabhaṁ; Ettha āpo ca pathavī, tejo vāyo na gādhati.

The answer to that is: Consciousness that is non-manifestative, infinite, and all-illuminating; there, water and earth, fire and air find no footing.

Ettha dīghañca rassañca, aṇuṁ thūlaṁ subhāsubhaṁ; Ettha nāmañca rūpañca, asesaṁ uparujjhati; Viññāṇassa nirodhena, etthetaṁ uparujjhatī’”ti.

There, long and short, fine and coarse, pure and impure, name and form completely cease without remainder. Here, both name and form are completely cut off; with the cessation of consciousness, here it is cut off.

Idamavoca bhagavā.

This was spoken by the Blessed One.

Attamano kevaṭṭo gahapatiputto bhagavato bhāsitaṁ abhinandīti.

The householder's son, Kevatta, was pleased with the words of the Blessed One and rejoiced.

Kevaṭṭasuttaṁ niṭṭhitaṁ ekādasamaṁ.

Thus ends the eleventh discourse, the Kevatta Sutta.